All the new Alfa Romeo engines!!

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Up to now it has been announced..

2.2 185hp
3.2 260hp

2.4mjet 200hp
1.9mjet 150hp

I want to ask you what engines will follow?????

I think..
1.9 160hp
2.8 v6???????????maybe 240hp
Gta version 3.2 twin turbo 400+.....hp

1.9 twin turbo 200hp
2.4 twin turbo ......?

the new 3.0 v6 multijet with 250hp when will be in production?

New 1.6 for 159,148 will it be or we will start only from 1.9?

Did i forgot anything?

Four wheel drive will be option for lower engine versions?
 
sakiss":nzmzz6xr ha detto:
Up to now it has been announced..

2.2 185hp
3.2 260hp

2.4mjet 200hp
1.9mjet 150hp

I want to ask you what engines will follow?????

I think..
1.9 160hp
2.8 v6???????????maybe 240hp
Gta version 3.2 twin turbo 400+.....hp

1.9 twin turbo 200hp
2.4 twin turbo ......?

the new 3.0 v6 multijet with 250hp when will be in production?

New 1.6 for 159,148 will it be or we will start only from 1.9?

Did i forgot anything?

Four wheel drive will be option for lower engine versions?

You're correct.
The new 3.0 MJet 250 Cv is ready for production and wil join 159 by the end of the year. This engine developed with VM (an italian engine-maker from Cento) was shown at the last Bologna Motor Show at the VM stand.
The twin turbo version of the 2.4 M-Jet engine isn't scheduled at the moment and perhaps the 1.9 TwinTurbo Multiair with 200 bhp will take the place of the 2.4 M-jet - 200 bhp. The new 1.6JTS with Uniair technology will arrive with the 148 model and may debut at the beginnig of 2008.
 
New 2.8 v6??????????????

So 159 will start from 1.9 with 160hp.It won't be 1.6 version ever?

Only 148 will have 1.6?

I have heard for a 3.0 v6 with twin turbo version of 3.0-250hp but with 300hp.

Also what about the 2.2 turbo with 310hp?
 
sakiss":1zn43xd1 ha detto:
New 2.8 v6??????????????

So 159 will start from 1.9 with 160hp.It won't be 1.6 version ever?

Only 148 will have 1.6?

I have heard for a 3.0 v6 with twin turbo version of 3.0-250hp but with 300hp.

Also what about the 2.2 turbo with 310hp?

The 1.6 isn't scheduled for 159. The base will be the classic 1.8 TS with 140 bhp in euro 4 version.
Both 3.0 V6 and 2.2 turbo JTS are scheduled in the original program for the beginning of 2007, but changes can occur.
 
And what about a 1.6 MJet with about 110 HP?
I've heard it about Fiat's SUV that will be presented as official car of 2006 Turin's Winter Olympic Games... :scratch)
It's probably that this engine will be used also for 148? :sgrat)
 
Both 1.6 110 bhp and 1.9 MJet 200 bhp are under development. The 1.6 unite should take the place of the classic 116 bhp without Multiget and equipe the smaller models. For the biggest ones should be preferred the 1.9 120bhp 'cause the best torque. The 1.9 M-Jet 200 bhp will be fitted with twin-turbo and Multiair device and should take the place of the 2.4 M-Jet with the same power in a couple of year, according with the actually downsizing tendence.
 
Engines?

Λιγες ωρες,μερες πριν παρουσιαστει η 159!

1.8 twin spark 140hp
1.9 jts 160hp
2.2 jts 185hp
2.8 v6 jts 230/40hp
3.2 v6 jts 260hp

2007/8
gta 405hp με uniair 68nm
2.2 turbo 310hp

1.9 mjet 120hp
1.9 mjet 150hp
2.4 mjet 200hp
3.0 mjet 250hp

2007/8
3.0 mjet twin turbo 300hp
 
Until 2008

Multijet/Multiair
1.3 70cv/75cv
1.3 90cv/100cv
1.3 -/120cv
1.6 105cv/115cv
1.6 120cv/130cv
1.9 120cv/-
1.9 150cv/165cv
1.9 -/200cv
2.4 200cv/220cv
3.0 250cv/275cv
4.0 -/380cv

1,9 200cv 2006/7 in 149...
 
Something in General

Alfa Brera------4/Z4,CLK/SLK,TT
Alfa Brera V6-----Porsche Cayman/Cayman S
Alfa Brera GTA----Porsche Carrera 4S
Alfa Spider----TT/SLK/Z4
Alfa Spider V6---- Porsche Boxster
Alfa Spider GTA---Porsche Carrera 4S Cabrio
Alfa 8c Competizione----F430 CS,911 GT2
Maserati Spyder '5000'------SL55AMG/911 turbo/911 turbo cabrio/V8 Vantage/V8 Vantage Volante
Maserati 5000GT------DB9/M6/CL55 AMG
Alfa 169 V6------------MB CLS350
Alfa 169 V8 & GTA-----MB CLS500/CLS AMG/Porsche Panamera
Maserati Quattroporte------Jaguar XJR/BMW 750i/750Li/MB S500/S500L
Maserati Quattroporte V12----Bentley Continental Flying Spur
Maserati MC12 ----Enzo Ferrari/F60(2007),Carrera GT,SLR
 
The goods on the Brera/159 engine?

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So, what do you guys think are the GOOD things about this engine? Although for me, it feels more like a GM engine with a touch of Alfa Romeo sprinkled here and there I know that once I get away from that point, there are (supposedly) some promising things going on here. This article was taken from italiaspeed.com.

"A product of the recently terminated Fiat-GM Powertrain joint venture, the new 3.2 litre V6 engine is built in Melbourne, Australia, alongside variants for various GM marques, and is supplied to Italy as a complete assembly to be fitted to cars on the production line.

The new V6 engine has been welcomed with mixed emotions by Alfa Romeo enthusiasts, despite the engine not yet having been trialed by the media.

Feedback from members who have driven the new Alfa Romeo 159 and Brera models fitted with the engine have, however, relayed a very positive note, expressing that the cars were characterized with ‘impressive performance and smoothness’. The engine is uniquely different from any of the other variants of the GM V6 engine range, and can be described as a true Alfa Romeo gem, with the majority of components having been redesigned around the bare block.

As described by the leader behind the technical development centre at Alfa Romeo, Paulo Massai, the block itself can be regarded as an “insensitive and inanimate piece of metal”, with the features that determine the true soul of the engine having been fully engineered from the ground up.

Skepticisms about the GM connotations of this engine should thus be swept under the carpet, as the engine features a brand new cylinder head, new liners, pistons, manifolds and injection system, to name but a few of the changes.

One of the issues closest to the heart of Alfisti will be how this new engine sounds, with the original Arese built V6 playing an almost trademark soundtrack. Alfa Romeo engineers worked day and night with the quest to achieve an engine note worthy of the Alfa Romeo V6 badge, and the presence of a twin tail-pipe exhaust system will certainly complement this nicely.

The so-called Twin Phaser engine uses the second-generation lean burn, direct fuel injection JTS system that was pioneered on the 2.0 litre 4-pot JTS engine in the successful Alfa Romeo 156. Reduced to practical figures, this technical jargon signifies that the new V6 engine will be 40% more economical, and produce 22 Nm more torque than the original Alfa Romeo V6 engine that it is replacing. Power output has now increased to 260 bhp.

Compared to the over-square Arese V6, which was appreciated for delivering generous mid-range grunt, the new 3.2 V6 has an almost unit bore-to-stroke ratio, which allows for 88% of torque to be available from 2000 rpm. In combination with the third generation all-wheel-drive Torson C system, the Alfa Romeo 159 and Brera V6 models will feature exuberant temperament, with little effort being required.

All of these improvements have to be summed up against critique, however, and in the case of the new V6 engine this comes in the form of under-bonnet looks. The original Alfa Romeo V6 was, quite simply put, a work of art. In the case of the new V6 engine though, the looks are not worth writing home about.

A future variant of the new V6 engine worth keeping an eye out for is the twin-turbo GTA model, which will feature the brand new UNIAIR variable valve technology, and boast a power output of 405 bhp and 680 Nm of torque."
 
M6/S6=manual,selespeed 6g.
AS6=Automatic 6g.

3.2JTS Q4 M6/S6 6"2 250
3.2JTS Q4 AS6 7"0 240
2.4JTDm M6 7"5 235km/h
2.4JTDm AS6 8"4 228km/h
2.2JTS M6/S6 7"7 230km/h
1.9JTS M6/S6 9"0 220km/h
1.9JTDm M6 9"4 220km/h
1.9JTDm M6 11"0 200km/h

159 3.2 vs Bmw 330 vs A4 3.2 vs Merc C350

AR 159 2.4JTDm M6 7"5 235km/h 200 CV
Audi A4 2.5 TDI M6 8"8 227km/h 160 CV
Audi A4 3.0 TDI quattro M6 7"2 235km/h 204 CV
MB C 270 CDI M6 8"9 230km/h 170 CV

AR 159 1.9JTDm M6 9"4 220km/h 150 CV
BMW 320d M6 8"3 225km/h 163 CV
Audi A4 2.0 TDI M6 9"7 212km/h 140 CV
MB C 220 CDI M6 10"1 224km/h 150 CV

AR 159 1.9JTDm M6 11"0 200km/h 120 CV
MB C 200 CDI M6 11"7 208km/h 122 CV

AR 159 1.9JTS M6/S6 9"0 220km/h 160 CV
BMW 320i M6 9"0 220km/h 150 CV...(9.okto)
Audi A4 1.8 TFSI M6 8"6 225km/h 163 CV
MB C 200 K M6 9"1 234km/h 163 CV

Unti the new 2.8Jts-230hp will arrive we put in the comparison 2.2
R 159 2.2JTS M6/S6 7"7 230km/h 185 CV
BMW 325i M6 7"5 245km/h 218 CV
Audi A4 2.0 TFSI M6 7"3 241km/h 200 CV
MB C 230 K M6 8"1 240km/h 192 CV
 
Future engines

2,8 v6 JTS 230 bhp 159-brera
2,2 JTS Turbo 260 bhp 159-brera
3,6 V6 JTS 300 bhp brera
Also 4.3(maserati) V8 425cv Q4 brera

also three new diesels:(intoduced 2005 and is constructed by vm motori for fiat auto spa...uses multijet system of Μagneti Marelli)
3.0 V6 JTD 250 bhp 2006
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1,9 JTD twin turbo 200 bhp 2007 replace 2.4
3.0 V6 JTD Twin turbo 300 bhp 2007


Alfa Romeo 3.0V6JTD M-JET
250hp/4000rpm
550nm/1800rpm
Euro4

BMW 3.0D L6 CRII
218hp/4000rpm
500nm/2000rpm
Euro3

Audi 3.0V6TDI CRII
225hp/4000rpm
450nm/1400-3250rpm
Euro4
 
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